A Comparison Between Comets ISON and Lovejoy (2011)

November 29th, 2013 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

The experts are still trying to figure out just how much of Comet ISON has survived during Comet ISON’s flyby of the sun yesterday.

I’m not a comet expert, but I’m going to venture a guess based upon the following comparison to another comet (Lovejoy) that also surprised astronomers when it survived perihelion in December, 2011.

Here’s a time lapse video of imagery from the SOHO LASCO C3 instrument when Lovejoy flew around the sun on 16 December 2011. Note three things:

(1) the horizontal flaring (sensor overdriving), which indicates a very bright object, both before and after perihelion;
(2) how compact the comet nucleus remains after perihelion,
(3) how the comet gradually grows a new tail pointing away from the sun after perihelion.

Now let’s look at Comet ISON. Compared to Comet Lovejoy, note:

(1) there is not as much flaring before perihelion, and NO flaring (yet) after perihelion (ISON is not as bright as Lovejoy),
(2) the nucleus is much more diffuse (larger, but dimmer) after perihelion,
(3) there appears to be comet material “flung outward” after perihelion, even before a new tail grows.

Now for some wild speculation by a rank amateur. I think the nucleus mostly broke up during perihelion, and what we now see is diffuse material that will rapidly dim in brightness over the coming days and weeks. I hope I’m wrong, of course…I would love to do more time lapse video of a brilliant pre-dawn comet. But at this point, I’m not hopeful.


18 Responses to “A Comparison Between Comets ISON and Lovejoy (2011)”

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  1. Denver says:

    Will note how the comet gradually grows a new tail pointing away from the sun after perihelion.
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    I’ve watched the two videos and I can say that comet ISON is spectacular.

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  8. Amber Brion says:

    Spencer notes that there is less flaring (sensor overdriving) with ISON before perihelion and no flaring yet after perihelion, indicating that ISON is not as bright as Lovejoy. Additionally, the nucleus of ISON is much more diffuse (larger, but dimmer) after perihelion compared to Lovejoy, and there appears to be comet material “flung outward” after perihelion, even before a new tail grows.

    Based on this comparison, Spencer speculates that the nucleus of ISON mostly broke up during perihelion and what remains is diffuse material that will rapidly dim in brightness over the coming days and weeks. However, he notes that he is not an expert in comets and his speculation is purely amateur. https://www.goodgarages.net/

  9. Ginny Miller says:

    It seems that the article you provided is discussing the survival of Comet ISON after its flyby of the sun in November 2013. The author, Dr. Roy Spencer, compares the behavior of Comet ISON to that of another comet, Lovejoy, which also survived perihelion in December 2011. Based on his analysis, Dr. Spencer speculates that Comet ISON’s nucleus may have broken up during perihelion and that what is currently visible is diffuse material that will rapidly dim in brightness over time. However, he acknowledges that he is not a comet expert and that his speculation is just that – speculation. blog