Home/BlogOver the next few weeks, mid-latitude observers might experience the best noctilucent cloud viewing of their lifetimes.
Extremely high-altitude noctilucent (night-shining) clouds viewed from Corvallis, Oregon on June 10, 2019 (Tucker Shannon, Google Pixel phone).
Observers over the northern half of the United States are reporting something they have never seen before — electric-blue noctilucent (night-shining) clouds. They are wispy in appearance, and continuously change shape. They can be seen when the sun is about 6 to 16 deg. below the horizon, so about 1 to 2 hours after sunset or before sunrise. During that time of night the sun is still shining on these clouds, but not on any normal weather-related clouds.
In the late spring every year, people at far northern latitudes have often seen these on clear or partly-cloudy evenings. But solar-minimum conditions, with few if any sunspots, are causing cooling in the extreme upper atmosphere around 80 km (~50 miles) high where the lowest atmospheric temperatures are recorded, approaching -150 deg. F (-100 deg. C). That altitude is above 99.999% of the air in the atmosphere.
Adding to the spectacular electric blue displays is increasing atmospheric methane, which gets converted to water vapor at these altitudes, and increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide, which causes enhanced cooling of the upper atmosphere. The result is that the conditions necessary for NLC formation are extending farther south than ever before.
The wispy and undulating appearance of the clouds is due to upward-propagating gravity (air density) waves that cause temperatures to rise and fall, and the clouds form in the colder portions of those waves. Ice grows on meteor dust particles, creating a (nearly) outer space version of cirrus clouds. Time lapse photography has been used to show how the clouds change shape as the gravity waves well up through the extremely cold upper mesosphere:
2017 NOCTILUCENT CLOUD CHASING SEASON TEASER – 4K (UHD) from Night Lights Films on Vimeo.
If you miss seeing them in the next several weeks, take heart — solar minimum conditions should persist until the next NLC season arrives, making the summer of 2020 a good viewing opportunity, too.
You can see recent NLC photos from around the Northern Hemisphere, updated daily, here.
Beautifully awesome
Seen almost EVERY morning and evening in Phoenix. NOT news.
Certainly not an “invasion”. But then, consider the source.
Wow, people can be mean about anything.
Odds this is seen almost every morning and evening in Phoenix? 0.0%
What is wrong with people that they are always so filled with vitriol over any and everything, including such a fascinating wonder of nature?
but but but….’global warming’, er climate disruption, er climate science, er, um climate disruption…..um….what are we calling it this week?
Remember, Maunder Minimum = Little Ice Age!
Agree! MAGA!!!!
I was wondering if the blue color was due to all of the AGI (silver iodide) they have been spraying for Orthographic Cloud Seeding(then I read the article)….
The rainiest year on record in TN and one of the rainiest years on record on the west coast….coinciding with a huge drop in temps in the Gulf and the Pacific.
The university of wyoming has a great pdf on orthographic cloud seeding…..MAKE IT RAIN, and cover up the rapid GLOBAL COOLING we have experienced in the last four years.
The government is claiming the drop in ocean temps is due to the last Maunder Minimum we had in the late 1600’s….while ignoring the evidence that we are approaching another MM, perhaps a Grand Minimum.
You were doing ok until you mentioned “gravity waves”… you lost all cred.
“Gravity waves” in this context are related to fluid flow, like what occurs on water surfaces, but also in the atmosphere (I’m sure you have seen waves in cloud fields). It has nothing to do with Relativity Theory “gravity waves”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
Oops! Looks like Chris just “lost all cred”…Ha ha ha…
Dr. Spencer relies on science, not alarmism, ignorance, or hyperbole.
So aren’t they actually sound waves generated by the friction of matter accelerated by gravity?
Here in Livingston, LA (Home of the LIGO facility that discovered gravity waves) (and Laine Hardy), I knew you weren’t referring to relativistic gravity waves.
I just wanted to mention, the Livingston LIGO detected gravity waves 7 millionths of a second before the Hanford LIGO detected them, so that makes us NUMBER ONE baby! Let’s boil some crawfish and have a party !
Like Roy said fluid gravity waves are not the same thing as relativistic gravitational waves. One of the coolest visualizations of this effect is within strong tropical cyclones. You’ll often see the waves undulating as they race away from the core.
Pay very close attention to the following satellite loop of Typhoon Meranti. You’ll see two different types. You’ll see waves spreading out from the center not like a wave in the water after a stone has been thrown in. And you’ll waves oriented parallel along radial lines. See if you can spot both types!
https://tinyurl.com/y6qo7eza
Drink deep or taste not of the Aperion spring
I’ve seen clouds like that for most of my 75 years. “Nothing new under the sun.”
Agreed. This year those high altitude clouds have appeared much later in the year than expected — at least at my latitude.
No you have not seen “clouds” like this for 75 years..These types of so called clouds only showed up the day chemtrailing began.
Planes have never in history filled the sky with their “contrails” that end up turning the whole sky smokey white.
This is chemtrailing/HAARP and whatever else they are ruining our skies and earth with.
This is my fathers world. And he will destroy it next time by fire.man is thinking way too highly of himself.
Agreed Peggy! The Almighty, the Creator & Sustainer of this physical world, will decide when to bring to conclusion the His physical creation—and yes, it will all be consumed by fire. How vacuous is man’s “science” compared to the omniscience of the Most High…And yet, even now, the “Heavens Declare the Glory of the Lord!”…
Uh, I don’t think it will be destroyed by fire. I think it will be purified by fire. Otherwise, New Jerusalem could not come down and join with us. Revelation is instructive for this.
Revelation = First century Science Fiction.
“Revelation = First century Science Fiction.”
And Orwell’s “1984” was 20th century science fiction not meant to be an instruction manual but which is now mostly reality.
I read 1984. comparing apocalyptic writings of the 1st century (of which there were many) and 1984 is like comparing Lemons to Grapes. Not even close..
The Almighty, the Creator & Sustainer of this physical world is the Sun! Wake up Sheeple. Heavens Declare the Glory of the Sun!
These clouds used to only happen at latitudes of 50 degrees and above. Ergo, instead of being an example of global warming then perhaps it’s global cooling.
BTW, the increase in Volcanic activity and decrease in solar activity could well result in a new ice age.
If a new ice age is in the making there could be a massive die off of humans. Most of us live in areas that were under ice in the last ice age of 10,000 BCE.
These clouds do sometimes occur at lower latitudes, in much earlier months. The January 2016 cloud formation was exceptionally interesting.
As for these formations being associated with any type of global cooling or warming — it would be nice to have someone compile a collection of papers on this to make it easier to understand the collective intelligence on this matter.
Anymouse
Global warming refers to the effect of greenhouse gases on the temperature of the troposphere, the surface and the pceans.
The same process cools the stratosphere. If a cooler stratosphere is mpre likely to produce noctiluscent clouds, then a link between the two is credible.
The troposphere and stratosphere are physically connected. The cooling of one will cause the cooling of the other via conduction.
frgough, all the more reason that the simultaneous warming of the troposphere and cooling of the stratosphere is peculiar.
b,
You wrote –
“frgough, all the more reason that the simultaneous warming of the troposphere and cooling of the stratosphere is peculiar.”
Both you and Em should realise that there has been no warming of the troposphere over the longest period – four and a half billion years.
The surface is no longer molten. It has cooled. The troposphere is no longer heated by a molten surface. It has cooled.
Maybe you need to describe the non-existent GHE in such a way to include these inconvenient facts? I doubt it – nobody else has managed to – not even the self appointed Nobel Laureate, Mike Mann, nor the self proclaimed climate scientist, Gavin Schmidt.
The only thing peculiar is the mindless devotion of the GHE true believers to the delusional pseudoscientific climate cult leaders!
I suppose you would quote something I wrote, and come back with some utterly devastating response – if you could just find your book of devastating responses. Maybe you left it with the GHE description you were working, or maybe it is with Trenberth’s missing heat, or Mann’s Nobel Prize? You don’t need to thank me for the hints.
Cheers.
“These clouds used to only happen at latitudes of 50 degrees and above. Ergo, instead of being an example of global warming then perhaps its global cooling.”
One way to falsify that hypothesis is to measure the global mean temperature and see how it is changing. If it is not changing or if it is increasing then you’ve have falsified the hypothesis.
So, you know of such a method that can measure the GMT?
I am only aware of methods that can estimate/approximate that value using grided sample points and computer models.
Yes. That would certainly be a way of measuring the global mean temperature. When I say “measure” something I don’t mean imply that the recorded value will be perfect. In fact, in the majority of cases spanning all disciplines of science this is par for the course. I fully accept that.
b,
You wrote –
“When I say “measure” something I don’t mean imply that the recorded value will be perfect. In fact, in the majority of cases spanning all disciplines of science this is par for the course.”
In real scientific disciplines (physics for example) accuracy can be pretty good. For example –
“The electron magnetic moment has been measured to an accuracy of 7.6 parts in 10^13.”
That’s better than measuring the distance between New York and Los Angeles to the thickness of the finest human hair. GHE true believers cannot even say what it is they are claiming to measure. What in blue blazes does “global mean temperature” actually mean? You can’t even define such a witless thing, let alone measure it, can you!
Pseudoscientific fool – away with ye!
Cheers.
How do you explain the largest drop ever recorded in average global temperatures in 2015 and 2016? How about the huge drop in sea temps in the Gulf as well as the Pacific? Is that what happens when ‘heat hides in the oceans’?
I bet the mainstream media just forgot to report that!
It’s an Inconvenient Truth, after all, and the media does not deal in truth.
The 7 men who run 98% of the media all agree on that.
Because when you’re talking about historical trends, you need a larger sample size than just 1 or 2 years, where the overall climate of the planet can be affected by specific events. In this case it would be a series of La Nia events & a negative phase of the lesser-known Pacific Decadal Oscillation which caused shifts in ocean circulation patterns that moved some excess heat into the deep ocean. You know the Jet Stream right? Well theres the same kind of thing that takes place in the oceans, which has an effect on you guessed it, our planets climate & global temperatures.
I selected just one graph that covers a span of 140 years but feel free to find one from a source you trust. You can clearly see a significant increase this past century http://berkeleyearth.org/2018-temperatures/
Also going back thousands of years, around 1000 during the Medieval Warming period, temperatures rose as well, but not to the levels we’re seeing now.
Mike Pompeo last week said “well if the climate changes people can simply move away”. Well all these migrants we’re seeing from Central America invading the US, don’t you wonder why theyre coming here? 1/3 of all jobs there are agricultural in nature. They’ve experienced years of droughts. They can’t grow food, can’t work, can’t eat, can’t survive so like Pompeo said, they’re moving. But climate change isn’t occurring so there’s nothing to worry about & no reason for them to uproot their lives & travel 1000’s of miles on a dangerous journey in the hopes of a better life. Our own military folks at the Pentagon have labeled climate change as a National Security issue. Be thankful they rely on science over corporate profits that maintain the status quo. I sure am, hopefully my kids who inherit this planet will too
DP,
You wrote –
“Because when you’re talking about historical trends, you need a larger sample size than just 1 or 2 years, where the overall climate of the planet can be affected by specific events.”
I agree. I use a sample size of four and a half billion years or so, and the global temperature has definitely dropped over this period.
If you look between your feet, you should not see any molten surface. The surface has cooled. Neither four and half billion years of accumulated sunlight, nor the mythical GHE, nor the completely useless computer graphics of Gavin Schmidt, nor even the self awarded fake Nobel Prize of Michael Mann have managed to stop the cooling.
Funny, that.
Cheers.
Those people are coming here for the EBT cards like New Mexico gives out. $1000 a month plus $200 a month per child from the day they step on US soil until the court date 5-6 years later that 90% won’t show up at. And you can bet that the inefficient government will keep refilling their card even after they don’t show up. plus they’ll get free health care for life, and any other benefit that they can get. As an American you will never get that deal, no matter how much paperwork you fill out. That is reserved for law breaking illegals. All you get is the bill. It has nothing to do with climate change. The corruption and stupidity of our Congress know no bounds.
Medieval Warm Period saw Vikings farming on Greenland. Those farms are still frozen as far as I am aware, and, in any event no one is now farming on Greenland. The argument that it is now warmer than the Medieval Warm Period fails due to the anecdotal information.
he said “carbon dioxide, which causes enhanced cooling”
What we need is a worldwide Argon concentration database, as Argon is 30 times higher concentration — but its variance around the globe is not well measured or understood.
We also need a correlation mapping of CO2 concentration variance with water vapor concentrations.
There is a mountain of work that needs to be funded and done.
Agree.
Ever increasing cosmic radiation is penetrating the solar systems heliopause and Earth magnetic field and is causing atmospheric compression and is heating the thermosphere via increased partical density. This will intensify causing increased vulcanism, damaging storms, high winds, Earthquakes, as well as health issues like heart attacks, strokes, cancers, and mental illness’s.caused by cosmic radiaiion strikes the to human the human body and brain, also affecting most other life forms on the plant. Have a nice day.
Yes. Absolutely. Incontrovertably correct.
And thus, if neodeconstructive Marxism holds, we have to choose between neotextual discourse and materialist postcapitalist theory. The noted scientist Derrida suggests the use of neodeconstructive Marxism to analyse and deconstruct society.
Ah, but have you considered the impact of antidisestablishmentarianism in the neologistic continuum?
You might well reconsider your neodeconstructive Marxist stance, and adopt the postmodern and surely superior neoreconstructive Marxist-Leninist Trotskyite paradigm.
Cheers.
Ever increasing cosmic radiation is penetrating the solar systems heliopause and Earth magnetic field and is causing atmospheric compression and is heating the thermosphere via increased partical density. This will intensify causing increased vulcanism, damaging storms, high winds, Earthquakes, as well as health issues like heart attacks, strokes, cancers, and mental illness’s.caused by cosmic radiaiion strikes the to the human body and brain, also affecting most other life forms on the plant. Have a nice day.
Maybe The Day of the Triffids heh ???
Better send us mo money to study this
And thats the key isnt it??? Increased funding. Money.
I dont want a dime of my money to go to these charlatans. It is all a farce intended to fleece the gullible and enrich the corrupt and powerful.
All animals and plants impact the environment, for better or worse. The idea that all human impact is negative and therefore should be disallowed is the mad insanity of megalomaniacal wanna-be tyrants. They want power for the sake of power and the climate change scam is their rallying cry. Very sick. Very twisted.
Is the blue hue from Hydrogen Sulfide emissions from anoxic ocean, lake, and river water? Is methane and nitrous oxide also a contributor to color?
Anoxic ocean water? Please show me where that occurs. 🙂
I have watched planes releasing something in the form of contrails for over 20 years now. Daily. These trails do not go away, rather they spread out and cover the sky. We have seen this in Portland OR year round, and also at night. People are afraid for some reason to acknowledge what is really going on. Someone is spraying the skies and manipulating weather.
Oh, jeez…another “chemtrail” lunatic.
Tin foil hat much, loser?
Such a shame public schools have devolved into indoctrination centers.
chemtrails are not bunk. go to geoengineeringwatch.org and learn the truth!
Nice retort their Racklefratz. You might want to due some investigating on your own before making baseless comments. I won’t do it for you but you might want to do some reading on Canadian Professor David Keith and his bold plan to blanket the skies with aerosol disbursements. Also part and parcel with funding is none other than Bill Gates. People who have taken to calling out others as “tin foil hat wearing” or the genrallt disparaging term of “Chemtrails” are usually either one of two things. The first is a blind ignoramus. The second is a paid boiler room disinfo stooge. Are you also the type of person who would suggest that our very own govt did not conduct dosing of unwitting participants in order to develope mind control? Surpise junior…the docs of MK Ultra are there for the viewing.
Geoengeneering is perhaps the term you should use to initiate your research. Geoengeneering does in fact involve releasing aerosols from jets. These streams of chemicals “chemtrails” if you like contain large amounts of metals. These metals can then also be exited via microwave energy ( the waves you see in photo) thus steering the mass to whatever means the psychos in control dictate. 5G cellular network, war applications, weather modification can all be involved in the “reason” why. Further on is the financial investments of weather commodities (look it up) to enrich oneselves off of others misfortune after the next “FREAK WEATHER EVENT”. Do some reading and wake up. At this point one would have to be almost blind or staring at the ground to deny the visual proof.
Yes. And I believe that it’s high time for humans to stop fooling with the climate. We’ve messed up enough already.
KG,
I agree. Humans should stop emitting CO2 immediately. Force may have to be used to ensure compliance. The last human left can leap off a high cliff.
Fixed.
Cheers.
Mike, before jumping off the cliff, though, that person should be responsible and turn off the lights.
Careful now (you wouldn’t want to run afoul with Dr Roy’s Emergency Moderation Team)…
https://bit.ly/2WB9umL
In the last days or the End Times in the Book of Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring.
In the last few years there’s been all kinds of very Strange Events in the Atmosphere along with the sound of Trumpets blowing that no one has ever seen or heard before. Plus the so-called experts submit excuses that are not reasonable or probable.
Get ready, There’s going to be more!
Miles Davis has been gone since 1991. Haven’t heard any new trumpet sounds since.
Yeah, I could go for some “noctilucent clouds”. Why not? At least, it would be a break from all the “climate change” nonsense.
There might be a market for tinfoil hats with earflaps.
This will not only prevent aliens from stealing your brainwaves and any other unsecured intellectual property, but also prevent outside noises like waves roaring and Trumpets blowing from upsetting your equilibrium.
Recommended for GHE true believers who don’t want to hear inconvenient facts, or laughter from real scientists (not “climate scientists”).
Funding is urgently required.
Cheers.
It cools faster and farther on dry, cloudless desert nights than it does on clear nights where it is humid even when there is no dew or frost. This well-known observation demonstrates that water vapor is IR active at earth temperatures (i.e. a ghg), that there is a GHE and that WV is at least a substantial contributor to it.
DP,
From my point of view it shows the precise opposite. Increased so called GHGs (CO2 and H2O) result in lower ground temperatures, by impeding incoming solar radiation, thus reducing the amount impinging on thermometers.
The absence of GHGs provides the highest surface temperatures in the world – the Libyan desert, for example. Arid tropical deserts are characterised by, well, aridity.
Clouds are either sparse to none, so that radiation from the surface to space is also minimally impeded. This of course results in rapid cooling after sunset.
In the same vein, the lowest temperatures on Earth are found on the Antarctic continent, also having little H2O above it. The driest continent on Earth, actually.
You wrote –
“This well-known observation demonstrates that water vapor is IR active at earth temperatures (i.e. a ghg), that there is a GHE and that WV is at least a substantial contributor to it.”
No GHE necessary. As I may have pointed out previously, you cannot even describe the mythical GHE in any way which would allow a testable GHE hypothesis to be formulated.
Maybe you didn’t post your comment in the right place, as I don’t see any of my words quotes, nor any disagreement with anything I wrote. Was my attempt at a humorous comment wide of the mark, do you think?
Cheers.
MF,
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Your failure to grasp a simple observation of the GHE of water vapor and ignorance of the lack of interaction of CO2 and H2O gas molecules with sunlight speaks volumes. Apparently you lack sufficient engineering/science skill to understand this stuff.
DP,
Are you disagreeing with something I wrote, or just having a whinge because you can’t?
You wrote –
“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Your failure to grasp a simple observation of the GHE of water vapor and ignorance of the lack of interaction of CO2 and H2O gas molecules with sunlight speaks volumes. Apparently you lack sufficient engineering/science skill to understand this stuff.”
Exactly so. The GHE of water or anything else is precisely zero. Your observation shows this graphically. Read what you wrote and take note. If you wish, of course.
Cheers.
MF,
Some things never seem to change:
The same thing has struck me even more forcibly than you. I have heard such things put forth as I should blush to repeatnot so much to avoid discrediting their authors (whose names could always be withheld) as to refrain from detracting so greatly from the honor of the human race. In the long run my observations have convinced me that some men, reasoning preposterously, first establish some conclusion in their minds which, either because of its being their own or because of their having received it from some person who has their entire confidence, impresses them so deeply that one finds it impossible ever to get it out of their heads. Such arguments in support of their fixed idea as they hit upon themselves or hear set forth by others, no matter how simple and stupid these may be, gain their instant acceptance and applause. On the other hand whatever is brought forward against it, however ingenious and conclusive, they receive with disdain or with hot rageif indeed it does not make them ill Galileo
It most certainly was not fiction. Go try to find an out of print book called Radio Warfare. Orwell was assigned to psychological operations during World War II and they quickly learned that it was a lot easier to run these ops on our own people than it was on the enemy. 1984 was a blueprint of what was laid out by our own government. It just took a little bit longer than expected.
Roy,
Any idea do these high clouds increase albedo or back radiation (Green house effect)?
Svensmark suggested low dense clouds would increase albedo and Im curious if these very high clouds are a potential positive or negative feedback to global temperature.
Rackey, you be the rackiest! Thanks for saying the wisest thing on here.
When are people going to wake up and finally realize that the government has been deliberately spraying chemicals in the sky/chemtrailing for the past couple decades?
You all so easily duped by whatever a scientist or weatherman tells you to beleive but none of you will use your damn eyes and logic
Youre wrong.
Funding for climate science should be cut completely. The entire subject is a money making scam by the likes of Al Bore and the rest of the pseudo intellectuals who think they all have Ph.D.s because they read a lot of weather websites. Fact is, if I were to secure funding for climate change research and implied it may not be occurring, Id never get funding ever again. This is all a complete lie.
Temperatures in San Francisco reached 100 F on Monday, which was 3 degrees higher than the maximum temperature at Las Vegas June 9 2019
Weather is not climate.
We hear this every winter when record cold temperatures occur.
f,
You are right. Climate is the average of historical weather records. No more, no less.
No science to be seen in any direction. “Climate science” is an oxymoron. Pseudoscientific climate cultists claim that they can predict the future by endless reanalysis of the past.
What a crock! No GHE. CO2 heats nothing. The Earth has cooled over the last four and a half billion years, in spite of everything, including the aforementioned four and a half billion years of continuous sunlight.
Did you have a point?
Cheers.
Look closer….
LOOK CLOSER….
CO2 causes COOLING…..
What an accidental admission…
What’s accidental about that? Cooling of the upper atmosphere has been a prediction of increased GHGs in the troposphere for a very long time.
I dont believe you. I am a native Phoenician and a stargazer and cloud watcher and Ive never seen these clouds in Phoenix skies. I did see them in central-western Washington skies on the evening of June 10 and I stopped and stared as I had never seen clouds like this color and texture. The Phx night skies are to bright and dry for this. To much time in the sun for you.
Nibiru!!!
This is nothing new. Been seeing this in the southern US pretty much all of my life. BS Fake News.
I suspect what you saw was cirrus clouds shortly after sunset. These clouds are much higher up (at least 10 times as high), and are only visible after “normal” clouds have gone dark. And not in the southern U.S. (although in the current event, there has been 1 report from northern Oklahoma).
No research needed. I have a hockey stick graph that proves it’s bad.
All that argon came from broken incandescent lightbulbs, something the global lighting conspiracy wants to hide.
Just ban lightbulbs, that will solve the problem. Save the research money for important things, like government-funded art history degrees for GED recipients.
Thanks Roy,
We are in central WA State.
Sent your link on to others; some that like taking sky photos.
With “mostly clear” night sky this week, we might have a look.
https://www.bluearmy.com/an-unknown-light-in-1938-demands-our-attention-even-today/
Dr. Spencer, do you have any thoughts on the unknown light of Fatima fame?
Tin foil hats must be properly be equipped with a rubber band to hold it in place. Never mind the risk that someone may start snapping the ‘heck’ out of their rubber band and be stunned back into some semblance of reality.
Dr. Skov also discusses this in her weekly YouTube report. https://youtu.be/wZ92MP2CcuY?t=104
The Nasa image from ISS in 2012 is “surprising”.
To take a picture of the clouds at 85 km hight from an angle below, while cruising at 350 km height needs a distance of at least 2500 km.
To see this detail from 2500 km distance is “surprising”.
Did NASA mislabeled this picture?
I find it funny to read this article. I live in rural place where you can see much of the stars in the sky. Just yesterday when walking late in the evening and looking at the stars, I thought it strange that I see bright smears at high altitude that do not possible look like the milky way. At a certain age you think, that you have seen it all. And then one day, there it is, smears in the dark night sky and it turns out to be high altitude clouds. I enjoyed it. Thanks for the article.
They say it’s from methane. Perhaps it’s the CO2 which they say has caused greening of the planet. Plants eventually die and produce more methane from its decomposition. Just a thought.
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